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Old 11-26-2007, 09:07 AM   #11
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I don't think Heroes is a rip-off of X-Men. I do think that Kring was heavily influenced by the series, but you can't call it a copycat just because it has people who have powers. The major philosophy behind X-Men (which is also a huge part of its success) is people who were born different with some trying to seek acceptance for who they are and others thinking their differences make them better than others. It's more of a reflection of real-life, just using powers instead of race, religion, etc. Heroes, on the other hand, is more about people trying to figure out what they are and how they got their powers in the first place.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:05 PM   #12
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Well I had to just respond to this thread because having watched several episodes of Heroes I find it hard to believe anyone could deny that it is a shameless X-Men ripoff.

From what I have seen largely taken from the Chris Claremont's X-Men run but not limited to that. There are elements from various other Marvel sources.

The plots, characters, storylines, premises are all duplicated in such similar fashions that I am surprised there aren't more lawsuits pending.

I had to go online to see if it was connected to Marvel in some way, because I was so disturbed by the copious number of similarities.

If you truly think it isn't a X-Men ripoff then you need to read more of the X-Men storylines (or Marvel comics in general).

While the show seems to be well produced, I get sick to my stomach watching each episode as I am exposed to hauntingly familiar elements at every turn.

Lastly, I have a number of friends who like to call themselves evil. Not sure exactly the reasons for it but they like to have that "bad" mystique to themselves. I could never really relate to it but it definitely is conceivable. I personally think the "brotherhood" part is a bit more hard to believe to me!
Was Stan Lee sued for having Spiderman wear tight?!? I think not!

Heroes has very FEW similarities to X-men. No prof. X,no tights,and hardly any cliche phrases(of course there is Hiro). And there are several unique powers that were never thought of in X-men,or atleast used or formated in different ways. For example:Maya,Adam and Claire(they are invincible,except for this so called virus,unlike wolverine, and of course Peter who absorbs powers by being close to their users and not killing people in the process.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:39 PM   #13
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I was downloading Heroes Season 2 Ep.3 when I saw a comment by this mindless person. he said;

"Heroes is a Shameless rip off of X-Men".

I hate it when people call it a rip off just because it resembles x-men, apart from there being mutants in it there is nothing else that resembles x-men at all, it‘s just because they exist in the same sub-genre. That‘s like saying John Wayne movies are just rip offs of Clint Eastwood movies. They both have cowboys, both look the same except for the actors of course. There will be many more mutant type films and series in the future I can imagine, that doesn‘t make them x-men, for a start in x-men the mutants all wear costumes, Heroes doesn‘t, they are all shown how to control their powers by professor x, in Heros they have to teach themselves, there‘s no such thing as a mutant school, plus Heroes has a secret organisation only known as, "The company" nothing like that in x-men. I love x-men and yes Heroes is about mutants too, who cares, I mean because x-en has mutants does that mean that nobody else is allowed to create a story about mutants just because x-men had them, and let‘s face it, x-men didn‘t create the idea, the idea of mutants has always been there. Last but not least Heroes has "HIRO" he is a loveble guy and brings a smile to anyone watching him. Anyway just kiss my behind, I hate arrogance...

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I couldn't be stuffed reading all of what u wrote but I agree with your title-- Heroes is a ****ing million times better than X-men. Xmen is **** Heroes is awesome
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:13 AM   #14
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Well I had to just respond to this thread because having watched several episodes of Heroes I find it hard to believe anyone could deny that it is a shameless X-Men ripoff.

From what I have seen largely taken from the Chris Claremont's X-Men run but not limited to that. There are elements from various other Marvel sources.

The plots, characters, storylines, premises are all duplicated in such similar fashions that I am surprised there aren't more lawsuits pending.

I had to go online to see if it was connected to Marvel in some way, because I was so disturbed by the copious number of similarities.

If you truly think it isn't a X-Men ripoff then you need to read more of the X-Men storylines (or Marvel comics in general).

While the show seems to be well produced, I get sick to my stomach watching each episode as I am exposed to hauntingly familiar elements at every turn.

Lastly, I have a number of friends who like to call themselves evil. Not sure exactly the reasons for it but they like to have that "bad" mystique to themselves. I could never really relate to it but it definitely is conceivable. I personally think the "brotherhood" part is a bit more hard to believe to me!

sooo what are you saying? not much as i can see.. you're only saying there are similarities and it's ripped off but you don't bring any proof or quote or whatever that shows those similarities..
Please explain what is so similar and ripped off so we can explain to you how wrong you are.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:58 AM   #15
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Was Stan Lee sued for having Spiderman wear tight?!? I think not!

Heroes has very FEW similarities to X-men. No prof. X,no tights,and hardly any cliche phrases(of course there is Hiro). And there are several unique powers that were never thought of in X-men,or atleast used or formated in different ways. For example:Maya,Adam and Claire(they are invincible,except for this so called virus,unlike wolverine, and of course Peter who absorbs powers by being close to their users and not killing people in the process.
I for one don't think that the shows plots have been a ripoff of x-men in any way, but maybe yes as far as the powers go. Maya does have a unique power, but Adam and Claire have the same power as Wolverine and all of them even live longer than normal lives(with the exception of Claire which we've yet to see). How is that unlike Wolverine??? He did have adamantium infused to his bones, but that was only possible because of his regeneration. And Peter's power is VERY similar to Rogue's power(with the exception of having to touch someone to acquire their power). And also we have yet to see if Claire or Adam will be affected by the virus(IE. Claire's blood seems to be the answer). That being said I don't feel that the show is a ripoff of anything, but when you try to make a statement your examples should be up to snuff.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:10 AM   #16
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I get the feeling that no-one read my last post OR got fixated with the x-men comments and hasn't given my comparisons with "the 4400" any credence. Has anyone even seen "the 4400"???
Another quick point, I noticed Stan Lee's name being mentioned in this thread. Did anyone notice his appearance in heroes?? He obviously holds no grudges with Tim Kring or im sure he would not have played his cameo role in the series.
What does it really matter if its a rip off or not, its not exactly the same so its different.
The storylines are nothing like x-men. Theres no good guys vs bad guys, theres no magneto or xavier as leaders, it is pretty much every man for himself. x-men never had a sylar and lets be fair there are many more cool abilities in heroes than in x-men.
Just thought id mention the 4400 one more time, great show, not quite a heroes but well worth a watch
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:00 AM   #17
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x-men never had a sylar and lets be fair there are many more cool abilities in heroes than in x-men.
Huh? With the exception of Sylar's primary power, there isn't an ability in Heroes you won't find in X-Men. I can list every Heroes power and find you their X-Men equivalent.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:04 PM   #18
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I get the feeling that no-one read my last post OR got fixated with the x-men comments and hasn't given my comparisons with "the 4400" any credence. Has anyone even seen "the 4400"???
Another quick point, I noticed Stan Lee's name being mentioned in this thread. Did anyone notice his appearance in heroes?? He obviously holds no grudges with Tim Kring or im sure he would not have played his cameo role in the series.
What does it really matter if its a rip off or not, its not exactly the same so its different.
The storylines are nothing like x-men. Theres no good guys vs bad guys, theres no magneto or xavier as leaders, it is pretty much every man for himself. x-men never had a sylar and lets be fair there are many more cool abilities in heroes than in x-men.
Just thought id mention the 4400 one more time, great show, not quite a heroes but well worth a watch

4400 is absolutly great !! I strongly recommend it to everyone in this forum
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:14 PM   #19
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4400 is absolutly great !! I strongly recommend it to everyone in this forum
I agree but heroes is a little less dramatic and it is faster less spooky religous mysterious
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:29 PM   #20
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those ppl are stupid who calls it rip off....
i dont care what ppl think of it...but i just luv this show..
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