Statue! - Page 3

touzoku · 03-10-2009, 12:49 AM

Perhaps one of the characters has four toes, now that I think about it. What's up with all the foot stuff, four toed statues, people wearing the wrong shoes, or wearing other peoples shoes because it's semi magical/science?

maybe the writer just have a foot fetish? /shrug.

?man · 03-10-2009, 06:36 PM

Personally at first i thought it was a statue of
osiris, but looking in on egyptian references the statue
itself resembles more of horace "HORACE

" the god with
a head of an eagle. I knew it couldn't be anubus because
you would have clearly seen the ears, but neither anubus
or Horus have 4 toes, Wich leads me to 1 of 2 theories that
I have in the back of my mind!

1. it is a entirely new god all together!, witch to me would
make the most sense

2. my friend told me this theory witch is really far fetched...
it is a statue of Danial Faradey... On one of the season premier
photos one with daniell he is sitting down in a chair, you can
clearly see one foot but the other is just... well invisible,
brobably just a error or allusion in the photo but hey anything
can happen in lost!

What would really creep me out is if they had a 40 ft statue
of cerberus... the 3 headed dog that guards the gates of hell

that seems more fitting!

BrainHungry · 03-11-2009, 12:34 AM

Anyone Notice its holding 2 Ankhs and also Paul had one

100% Certain that its Egyptian

mugatu22 · 03-11-2009, 02:43 AM

I didn't notice the "ankhs," primarily because I had no idea what the hell an "ankh" was until I looked it up just now. A symbol representing eternal life? The looped cross. Great catch. And yes they are Egyptian origin.

Nelson16 · 03-11-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimwit

As for the baby, I think it would be awesome if he were named James.

I may be way off here, as I generally am when it concerns Lost. But in regards to the baby being James, is it possible for one person to exist in two places at the same time on the island? Baby James and adult James on the island at once would cause some space time conundrum, would it not? Isn't that why adult Charlotte disappeared when time stabilized? Two of the same body can not exist at the same time on the island? Just my thoughts.

Although, that's only if you meant it was actually Sawyer being born. If it's just the name you mean then my post is meaningless :P

Talontbo · 03-11-2009, 10:00 PM

hey Nelson,

forget the Baby's Name... Your post is not at all meaningless... its quite valid..

We know for a fact that during one of the Jumps... Sawyer sees Kate helping Claire to give birth to Aaron... We also know for a fact that, Sawyer, Locke and Juliette were on the Island during this moment of the Miracle of Life.. On the Island in the Time it occurred... and on the island visiting, watching it occur...

So to answer your question... YES, it would seem that it WAS possible to have 2 people, the same 2 people, be on the island in 2 different places at the same time...

The basic rule is... "Identical Matter" can not "occupy the same space and time" without destroying itself...

what we saw were nothing more than close calls...

Why exactly Charlotte disappeared is a matter of debate... Much the same as Jack, Kate and Hurley disappearing off the Plane before it landed in the jungle on Hydra island...

I am in the group (of 1 possibly) that thinks..... Jack, Kaye and Hurley enter the "Window" and were dropped off at some time other than the people we saw on Hydra... those being Locke, Caesar and Ben...

But how that compares to Charlotte is this.... The last Flash... Charlotte somehow and for some reason disappeared, and can be assumed to be in a different time...

During the "Trip Back", Jack, Kate and Hurley disappeared and it looks as though they are in a different time...

and yet, Both events do not seem tied together...

one was caused by Locke resetting the Island Moving Devise.. the Other.. was Random Event Window Opening, even though it can be predicted to some degree.

Not sure any of this helps you... but I do believe your thinking along the correct lines....

InThebeginning · 03-12-2009, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talontbo

But how that compares to Charlotte is this.... The last Flash... Charlotte somehow and for some reason disappeared, and can be assumed to be in a different time...

Wasn't Charlotte dead before the last flash? Locke was dead on 316 and didn't 'dissapear ' off the plane during the flash. Charlotte was dead and didn't move with Dan and the rest during the last flash. Just thinking out loud.

Talontbo · 03-12-2009, 04:56 AM

Charlotte was dead. This is correct. But we know she disappeared. Faraday says so and we can see her body is obviously gone.

Herein lies the Catch....

Locke is alive and ReSets The Island Moving Devise. FLASH... Locke somehow ends up in Tunisia without the mention of the same 10 month time difference.

Charlotte's dead body disappears

Our now Lockeless group seem to be in 1974.....

Hawking is helping Ben to get our people back... its roughly 2007.. They must board an airplane that is going to pass through a "WINDOW"... Of Course Hawking could be playing Ben.. Widmore may have reason to have Ben go back at this specific time.

They board the plane with Lockes dead body and it flies through the window...

POOOF.... Jack Kate and Hurley are in DHARMA time...

Locke and Ben, Lapidus and maybe Sun are on Hydra... Locke still believes this WAS a Dharma station.. not that it is.....this is supported simply by the fact...NO DHARMA PEOPLE ARE THERE!!!!

And now to close the LOOP....

The Final Flash.. the one Locke causes by resetting the Island Movinf Devise...

Is in fact the same Flash that causes the Window.... Time has no meaning... it was at this moment that Locke was dead and alive... That Charlotte was dead and was born...

Question now is.... and I have posted my thoughts before on this...

Are Locke, Ben, Lapidus and Sun along with the plane and passengers... still in 2007?

Because if they are not, and are in fact in 1977....

Why the hell is Dharma not at the Hydra Station? Well the hell didn't someone come to investigate a HUGE PLANE landing in the jungle?

This last complication is the most interesting... but it is consistent with the effects noted regarding Charlotte and Locke....

tailhook · 03-12-2009, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talontbo

And now to close the LOOP....

The Final Flash.. the one Locke causes by resetting the Island Movinf Devise...

Is in fact the same Flash that causes the Window.... Time has no meaning... it was at this moment that Locke was dead and alive... That Charlotte was dead and was born...

There is absolutely 0 evidence that occured. It was allready stated by Hawking that they were able to calculate the movements of the island and could determine where it would be next and at what time. This was a while after Locke had turned the wheel and had become a corpsesicle.

-TH

Talontbo · 03-12-2009, 09:10 AM

hey Hook,

all bets are off.... This is TIME we are contemplating....

Fact is...

Hawking has already demonstrated her ability to know what is going to happen... how much easier is it to predict what has happened...

We know... Ben showed up in Tunisia 10 Months after he Moved the Island..

When Locke met Widmore.. Widmore seemed pretty specific to mention 3 years had passed.... This would tend to discount a similar 10 Month time gap for Locke...

And this is not even looking at "THE EXIT"

And your correct...

There is ZERO PROOF.... But ask yourself......

How is it a Dead Locke is able to be brought back to Life????

How much easier to speculate that it was not a matter Re-Animation of a long dead corpse.... But to speculate that Locke through the Magic of TIME... was JUMPED to the Coffin..... as a result of having been Jumped off the Island while moving the island.....

Just because we think we see the Return flight at a particular point in time (after Locke moves the Island) does not exclude the possibility that the Moment it enters the Window... That TIME is no longer a function of Reality... But as Faraday theorizes... is a matter of the Imaginary.... That though they left THEIR FUTURE TIME (3 years)... That the window somehow bridged The Now... with the Then...

We know it did for Jack, Kate and Hurley.... this seems to be obvious.... they went back 30 years... Why couldn't Locke's dead body go back to the moment he Re-Sets the Wheel....??????

Think about it.....

03-10-2009, 12:49 AM	#21
touzoku Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 334	reply Perhaps one of the characters has four toes, now that I think about it. What's up with all the foot stuff, four toed statues, people wearing the wrong shoes, or wearing other peoples shoes because it's semi magical/science? maybe the writer just have a foot fetish? /shrug.

03-10-2009, 06:36 PM	#22
?man Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 211	Personally at first i thought it was a statue of osiris, but looking in on egyptian references the statue itself resembles more of horace "HORACE " the god with a head of an eagle. I knew it couldn't be anubus because you would have clearly seen the ears, but neither anubus or Horus have 4 toes, Wich leads me to 1 of 2 theories that I have in the back of my mind! 1. it is a entirely new god all together!, witch to me would make the most sense 2. my friend told me this theory witch is really far fetched... it is a statue of Danial Faradey... On one of the season premier photos one with daniell he is sitting down in a chair, you can clearly see one foot but the other is just... well invisible, brobably just a error or allusion in the photo but hey anything can happen in lost! What would really creep me out is if they had a 40 ft statue of cerberus... the 3 headed dog that guards the gates of hell that seems more fitting! __________________ go BACK!

03-11-2009, 12:34 AM	#23
BrainHungry Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 63	Anyone Notice its holding 2 Ankhs and also Paul had one 100% Certain that its Egyptian __________________ *"You drink decaf, right, Noah?"*

03-11-2009, 02:43 AM	#24
mugatu22 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 332	I didn't notice the "ankhs," primarily because I had no idea what the hell an "ankh" was until I looked it up just now. A symbol representing eternal life? The looped cross. Great catch. And yes they are Egyptian origin. __________________

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03-11-2009, 10:00 PM	#26
Talontbo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 730	hey Nelson, forget the Baby's Name... Your post is not at all meaningless... its quite valid.. We know for a fact that during one of the Jumps... Sawyer sees Kate helping Claire to give birth to Aaron... We also know for a fact that, Sawyer, Locke and Juliette were on the Island during this moment of the Miracle of Life.. On the Island in the Time it occurred... and on the island visiting, watching it occur... So to answer your question... YES, it would seem that it WAS possible to have 2 people, the same 2 people, be on the island in 2 different places at the same time... The basic rule is... "Identical Matter" can not "occupy the same space and time" without destroying itself... what we saw were nothing more than close calls... Why exactly Charlotte disappeared is a matter of debate... Much the same as Jack, Kate and Hurley disappearing off the Plane before it landed in the jungle on Hydra island... I am in the group (of 1 possibly) that thinks..... Jack, Kaye and Hurley enter the "Window" and were dropped off at some time other than the people we saw on Hydra... those being Locke, Caesar and Ben... But how that compares to Charlotte is this.... The last Flash... Charlotte somehow and for some reason disappeared, and can be assumed to be in a different time... During the "Trip Back", Jack, Kate and Hurley disappeared and it looks as though they are in a different time... and yet, Both events do not seem tied together... one was caused by Locke resetting the Island Moving Devise.. the Other.. was Random Event Window Opening, even though it can be predicted to some degree. Not sure any of this helps you... but I do believe your thinking along the correct lines....

03-12-2009, 04:56 AM	#28
Talontbo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 730	Charlotte was dead. This is correct. But we know she disappeared. Faraday says so and we can see her body is obviously gone. Herein lies the Catch.... Locke is alive and ReSets The Island Moving Devise. FLASH... Locke somehow ends up in Tunisia without the mention of the same 10 month time difference. Charlotte's dead body disappears Our now Lockeless group seem to be in 1974..... Hawking is helping Ben to get our people back... its roughly 2007.. They must board an airplane that is going to pass through a "WINDOW"... Of Course Hawking could be playing Ben.. Widmore may have reason to have Ben go back at this specific time. They board the plane with Lockes dead body and it flies through the window... POOOF.... Jack Kate and Hurley are in DHARMA time... Locke and Ben, Lapidus and maybe Sun are on Hydra... Locke still believes this WAS a Dharma station.. not that it is.....this is supported simply by the fact...NO DHARMA PEOPLE ARE THERE!!!! And now to close the LOOP.... The Final Flash.. the one Locke causes by resetting the Island Movinf Devise... Is in fact the same Flash that causes the Window.... Time has no meaning... it was at this moment that Locke was dead and alive... That Charlotte was dead and was born... Question now is.... and I have posted my thoughts before on this... Are Locke, Ben, Lapidus and Sun along with the plane and passengers... still in 2007? Because if they are not, and are in fact in 1977.... Why the hell is Dharma not at the Hydra Station? Well the hell didn't someone come to investigate a HUGE PLANE landing in the jungle? This last complication is the most interesting... but it is consistent with the effects noted regarding Charlotte and Locke....

03-12-2009, 09:10 AM	#30
Talontbo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 730	hey Hook, all bets are off.... This is TIME we are contemplating.... Fact is... Hawking has already demonstrated her ability to know what is going to happen... how much easier is it to predict what has happened... We know... Ben showed up in Tunisia 10 Months after he Moved the Island.. When Locke met Widmore.. Widmore seemed pretty specific to mention 3 years had passed.... This would tend to discount a similar 10 Month time gap for Locke... And this is not even looking at "THE EXIT" And your correct... There is ZERO PROOF.... But ask yourself...... How is it a Dead Locke is able to be brought back to Life???? How much easier to speculate that it was not a matter Re-Animation of a long dead corpse.... But to speculate that Locke through the Magic of TIME... was JUMPED to the Coffin..... as a result of having been Jumped off the Island while moving the island..... Just because we think we see the Return flight at a particular point in time (after Locke moves the Island) does not exclude the possibility that the Moment it enters the Window... That TIME is no longer a function of Reality... But as Faraday theorizes... is a matter of the Imaginary.... That though they left THEIR FUTURE TIME (3 years)... That the window somehow bridged The Now... with the Then... We know it did for Jack, Kate and Hurley.... this seems to be obvious.... they went back 30 years... Why couldn't Locke's dead body go back to the moment he Re-Sets the Wheel....?????? Think about it.....