Old 03-05-2009, 03:56 PM   #11
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interesting.. Wikipedia and google resulst for "Jacob" and "Egypt" There is talk of a Jacob going to egypt and a man named benjamin is involved... check it out;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob#J...cob_and_Rachel

ps. no prob sugarnuts, just tryin to contribute!
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:07 PM   #12
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hey Sugar,

Richard as the Statue??? not so sure.. but that is a terrific thought... Juliette when responding to Locke's question, 'How old is Richard" Juliette replies, "Old" in a tone that would almost impart... beyond counting, but Locke did not ask the follow-up... Exactly how old is Old?

That said.. this is why I am not so sure the Statue is Richard.. and this is simply based on nothing more than Placing Myself in Richards shoes...ego, vanity and a serious level of superiority complex.

If I was Richard, and I was X years Old... And I was the Islands True Inhabitant.. and I had a Colossal Statue depicting an Image of myself..I am pretty darned sure I would not let it get Destroyed.. and if it did for some reason out of my control... I would have my minions build another.. Especially if I was in fact some Ancient Deity...

But hey... That,s just me... walking in his shoes for a mile....
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Yeah Alperts face on the statue is pretty farfetch'd, i just think it would be awesome. Do you think it will be someone we know, or not?

One thing thats been bugging me is the guys that Sawyer and Juliet shot. They seemed like some pirate rapists or whatever. Well, that is not what i thought Richards group would look like. I always thought they were a peaceful group of people, protecting their island, but i definatly did NOT get that feeling in 'LaFluer". What's up with these guys?
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I've not perceived Richard as an ego-centric type. My impression is that he prefers being the lieutenant. He seemed quick to promote Ben to leader status at the time of the purge. If Widmore is to be believed, he previously put Widmore above him. So, Richard doesn't sound like the type of person who'd want a statue of him made. Although I could believe he may have been the architect of the statue.
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So... could this actually be the ALIENS that provided the Advanced Math needed to Construct the Pyramids?
Hey tbo heres an interesting thought. It's always been such a mystery (in real life, not Lost) how some ancient civilizations seem to have an understanding of complex technologies, particularly the egyptians right?

Well what if Lost decides to explain this with our islanders? The reason all these ancient civilizations know all this stuff is because time is cyclical. Some characters on Lost would be teleported to the beginning of civilization, and because of their knowledge of future technologies they are able to do things that would later puzzle us (present time) as to how they could know such things.
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Hey tbo heres an interesting thought. It's always been such a mystery (in real life, not Lost) how some ancient civilizations seem to have an understanding of complex technologies, particularly the egyptians right?
They didn't have an understanding of complex technologies. Thats why you didn't see them driving cars. What they did have was a far better understanding of simple technologies, like using the power of gravity to move very large objects precisely and the harnassing of lots of human power. If you've ever seen how an obelisk is stood up on its end, you know what I mean.

But only the tinfoil hat crowd beleives Aliens had anything to do with building those pyramids or anything else in the Ancient World.

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Old 03-07-2009, 02:40 AM   #17
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hey Hook,

The Egyptians of 4,500 years ago, were highly advanced for their time.

This is where you seem to lose perspective.

They obviously did not have Automobiles... However their Chariots were considered highly technological. They practiced what can only be described as Advanced Medicine, They had an understanding of Pi. Their counting system though basic by most standards was in fact adaptable and when needed Egyptians could easily perform Fractions, Multiplication and Division. They obviously used Geometry.... and Alchemy..

Were any of these feats comparable to today? No.

But for a civilization to in fact Dominate and Thrive for thousands of years, They must have had something going for them.

The Great Pyramid at Giza was the worlds tallest freestanding building for nearly 3800 years... for all intents and purposes, Ancient Egypt could be considered the greatest single Civilization in the History of mankind.

But Ancient Egypt does not need little old me to defend her.. Her legacy stands in the desert and along the Nile River, in museums all over the world and her accomplishment are many and distinguished...

So Hook, there you have it. Compared to today, not a single ancient civilization could be considered even remotely Advanced. But this is where the comparison is flawed and unfair.

It would be like comparing an NFL Player today, to one of the 1920's or 30's, heck even on from the 60's, with few exception.

However, to use a comparison based on a Contemporary Standard, then no argument could even be entertained.
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I don't know that the statue is going to turn out to be Richard, but I think it's going to turn out to be somebody we know when we finally see the face. I'd like it if it were a pregnant Claire.

As for the baby, I think it would be awesome if he were named James.
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The Egyptians of 4,500 years ago, were highly advanced for their time.
Interesting way of putting it. I'll roll with that. Of course.. if you ate with utensils rather than your hands you were Highly Advanced for their time.

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This is where you seem to lose perspective.

They obviously did not have Automobiles... However their Chariots were considered highly technological.
For the time.. yes.

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They practiced what can only be described as Advanced Medicine
Not too keen on this one. Mummification does not constitute Advanced Medicine. I do seem to recall they did drill into the head every now and then no?

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They had an understanding of Pi.
So did I, in the 6th grade.

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Their counting system though basic by most standards was in fact adaptable and when needed Egyptians could easily perform Fractions, Multiplication and Division.
1st through 6th grade.

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They obviously used Geometry....
Much less than you might think.

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and Alchemy..
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But for a civilization to in fact Dominate and Thrive for thousands of years, They must have had something going for them.
The Nile River.

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The Great Pyramid at Giza was the worlds tallest freestanding building for nearly 3800 years... for all intents and purposes, Ancient Egypt could be considered the greatest single Civilization in the History of mankind.
No.. it really couldn't. We are currently living in the greatest single Civilization in the History of mankind. You can't even read this message without technology that they couldn't even fathom. Even the most basic of technologies that make this method of communication possible, electricity, was completely unknown to them. Their entire Civilization is to this One as that of Ants are to Man. Can Ants build structures, often impressive ones relatively speaking? Sure... that doesn't make them an Advanced Civilization.

Give them their due though.. their mastery of Simple Technology was impressive, its just that they didn't have anything in the zip code, area code, or even galaxy of today's technology. Certainly nothing that needed an Alien to teach them lol.

Which is really my only gripe, people claiming Aliens had to show them how to use their Simple Technologies because there is a myth that what they did required Complex Technologies.

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Old 03-09-2009, 02:54 PM   #20
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hey Hook,

you so obviously missed the point(s).

1. The Alien remark was sarcasm..... duh...

2) Your comparison of Ants to Humans is false... as is your comparison of Ancient Egyptians to The Current Modern Age.

To compare Ancient Egypt to others of the same time period would not only be more fair, it would be correct...


As for their knowledge of Medicine.. The are known to have invented some of the Earliest Medical Instruments... other than a Brain Drill.....

Knowledge of Pi.... this clearly speaks for itself... your 6th grade math aside... This coupled with Geometry, Agriculture, Astronomy and Alchemy.

The Ancient Egyptians clearly had the ability to understand Chemistry. Not the least of which could be defined as POISONS... but I go further... They developed Faience. A type of glass glazing that derived its bluish color from Copper.

It can be argued that the Egyptians knew of and used Electricity. See link and decided as I know you will....

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_lights_fd1.htm


So though you afford them little more than INSECT STATUS, your opinions are highly valued and respected by this forum minion......
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