Adam & Eve

[kellybee]

When Charlotte died in a time that she didnt belong in, she disappeared. Why would it be any different for anyone else?

I dont think its any of the losties. Maybe its the Adam and Eve of the Hostiles. Maybe it was two of the people who died in the purge, possibly Ethan's parents, or Miles's parents. Maybe they were random shipwreck victims like those on the Black Rock

[Talontbo]

hey Kelly,

Throughout the jumps... Our Locke Gang jumped together.. it only seems as though they disappeared to those left in the Time Line they seemed to disappear from.... Charlotte in fact jumped along with the gang, this included Faraday and Miles... it wasn't until she DIED and the last Jump placed them in Dharma Time that she vanished from Faraday's Arms...

Because we do not have another example of a DEATH VANISHING during the Jumps,,, Theories Abound.... I have mine....

Locke is not a valid example... as he died off island... That is why I proposed the theory that he actually jumps ALIVE to the Flight 316...


Now for Adam and Eve,,,

all of your thoughts are terrific... and could in fact be the case...

But isn't it odd???? We have yet to see Rose and Bernard from the moment the Jumps Started???

[sugarnuts]

Rose and Bernard are excellent selections, we hwven't seen them in so long, you can almost feel a rose/bernard centric episode coming. I think it would be cool for R&B to be Adam and Eve.

[?man]

i still think its Gerald and Karen DeGroot

[Hurley_Bird_Special]

Jack cannot be Adam. One of the "rules" of time travel, and this is coming from someone with an extensive background in comics, is that the same matter cannot occupy the same space. If Jack were to make contact with his own bones, it would cause the space time continuum to unravel. In fact, the bones would actually repel him the closer he got, so even if he did make not make contact with them he would feel a force pushing him away. Remember the rabbits in the video?
This leads me to another theory. Why did only four of the Oceanic six make the time jump while Ben and Sun stayed behind? We already know that Ben is on the Island as a child so sending him back would mean running the risk of him making contact with himself. I think this can only mean that Sun is the daughter of Dr. Candle. He bears a resemblance to Sun's father who we have seen and who appears to be scarred. Messing with the space-time-continuum can do a number on a brothers face. Maybe he was attacked by a disoriented rabbit, maybe something blew up in his face. He was in a leadership position and those people who are leaders on the island tend to be fairly wealthy when they get back to the real world. I'm sure this has been thrown around, it's just a thought.
And one final observation. It's a pretty obvious one I haven't heard discussed much; what is up with all the J names? Jack, John, James, Jin, Jacob, you can even reach for Sayid Jarra. 3 out of the five losties with J names have been in positions of leadership and as we know there are no coincidences on this show. Just a thought. Tell me what you think, and go easy on my...this is my first post.

[Talontbo]

hey Hurley Bird,

The Matter occupying the same space has been discussed. As a NEWBIE POSTER this oversight is understandable.. I hold no grudges...

And yet your theory tends to lack some basic considerations... I mention but a single one that will throw you into a tail spin...

During The Jumps....

Locke, Sawyer and Juliette, not to mention Rose, Bernard and the other Lost Red Shirts.. Jumped across time several times that would have placed them in exactly the type of danger you described... Meeting Themselves... The single most obvious was when Locke and the Gang Jumped and Locke saw the light shoot out of the hatch the night he was there banging on it after Boone died... at that moment Locke was in fact in the same time as an earlier Locke and he was able to observe this..

So though I agree with most of everything you said regarding the Science...

Our Writers have bent the Rules...... sorry...

As for THE WHY's to a Sun and Lapidus...

Hawking did warn..... It is "Unpredictable" to return to the Island... Aaron was the primary factor in my opinion as to why they all were scattered through time....

and somehow, Claire knew this.....

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by sugarnuts

Rose and Bernard are excellent selections, we hwven't seen them in so long, you can almost feel a rose/bernard centric episode coming. I think it would be cool for R&B to be Adam and Eve.

Of course... everyone might be overlooking the completely obvious... perhaps it actually is Adam and Eve :>. As in.. the original two ancestors that brought life to this planet. If we follow that story then the next two should be Aaron and Ji-Yeon.

And if you want a good look at the type of story Lost is trying to tell...

go watch Knowing. Its in theaters now and they even tossed in a couple rabbits as a nod to Lost.

[sugarnuts]

This leads me to another theory. Why did only four of the Oceanic six make the time jump while Ben and Sun stayed behind? We already know that Ben is on the Island as a child so sending him back would mean running the risk of him making contact with himself. I think this can only mean that Sun is the daughter of Dr. [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]Candle[/color][/color].

Very interesting, Hurley bird. In all likeliness, there was a specific reason some islanders on the Ajira flight didn't go to 1977. I seriously doubt it was a random event that some went to Dharma time and some stayed in present time. I actually mentioned the possibility that Paik might be Marvin threenames, but your evidence for this conclusion makes it seemingly possible. The evidence being Sun didn't go back to Dharma time because she already exists there. Good first post btw.

Of course... everyone might be overlooking the completely obvious... perhaps it actually is Adam and Eve :>. As in.. the original two ancestors that brought life to this planet. If we follow that story then the next two should be Aaron and Ji-Yeon.

TH, this would actually be my favorite conclusion. I would love nothing more than to see Lost's story take on this epic kind of angle, encompassing human existence. I know some people wouldn't like that because of religous reasons, but it think it would be f***ing sweet.

And if you want a good look at the type of story Lost is trying to tell...

go watch Knowing. Its in theaters now and they even tossed in a couple rabbits as a nod to Lost.

How do you know Lost is trying to tell the same type of story as Knowing? Is that just your personal idea, or what?

Also, was Knowing any good? I kind of want to see it because i like those 'end of the world' type movies, but since the wicker man, i've been terrified of Nick Cage movies. But if you promise Cage didn't destroy the movie, im down to check it out

[tailhook]

Originally Posted by sugarnuts

Very interesting, Hurley bird. In all likeliness, there was a specific reason some islanders on the Ajira flight didn't go to 1977. I seriously doubt it was a random event that some went to Dharma time and some stayed in present time. I actually mentioned the possibility that Paik might be Marvin threenames, but your evidence for this conclusion makes it seemingly possible. The evidence being Sun didn't go back to Dharma time because she already exists there. Good first post btw.



TH, this would actually be my favorite conclusion. I would love nothing more than to see Lost's story take on this epic kind of angle, encompassing human existence. I know some people wouldn't like that because of religous reasons, but it think it would be f***ing sweet.

Aye.. that was made clear after the BSG finale(it owned btw). Some people have real hangups with religion.. and a lot of those are aethiests.

Originally Posted by sugarnuts

How do you know Lost is trying to tell the same type of story as Knowing?

Cause I saw the film? You'll see the parallels. Not gonna go spoiling the film though.

Originally Posted by sugarnuts

Is that just your personal idea, or what?

Watch the movie :>. Also keep in mind I said same type of story. It aint gonna be verbatim.

Originally Posted by sugarnuts

Also, was Knowing any good? I kind of want to see it because i like those 'end of the world' type movies, but since the wicker man, i've been terrified of Nick Cage movies. But if you promise Cage didn't destroy the movie, im down to check it out

I don't think he destroyed the movie no. I liked the movie a lot but then I tend to go for Sci Fi that lets its freak flag fly with wild abandon, as say Lost has in season 5. He was definately better here then some of his other recent flicks. Be aware though punches are not pulled in this film like say the ending of Watchmen. It plays rough pretty much throughout and is a pretty hard PG-13.

-TH

[sugarnuts]

I don't think he destroyed the movie no. I liked the movie a lot but then I tend to go for Sci Fi that lets its freak flag fly with wild abandon, as say Lost has in season 5. He was definately better here then some of his other recent flicks. Be aware though punches are not pulled in this film like say the ending of Watchmen. It plays rough pretty much throughout and is a pretty hard PG-13.

Nice. I was one of the few people that really liked the Watchmen flick, maybe because i hadn't read the comic beforehand, but i loved the action in it, not to mention the deep philosophical issues. Thats awesome that knowing isn't pulling any punches, though.